June 23, 2025

Jo Newman is a Household Name. It's True Becasue It Says So On The Internet!

Jo Newman is a Household Name. It's True Becasue It Says So On The Internet!
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Good afternoon, good evening, good three am. You wake up

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with the Taylor Swift song stuck in your head, don't

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remember the lyrics, and can't go back to sleep until

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you've googled them. We are anxiety atticts Bedtime Stories. I'm

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Joe and I'm Morgan, and welcome to our weekly BS

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where we talk about all the things that are giving

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us anxiety, keeping us from sleeping, keeping our brains from

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functioning in a way that we agree that normal people's

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brain should function.

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Seriously, how much better is it when you're stressing about

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something and you find out that you're not the only

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crazy one in the world.

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Yeah, and that whatever it is that's making you feel

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awful can be trumped by somebody else's story.

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Yeah, and you go, ooh, maybe I shouldn't worry so

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much about that. Uh. You know what's funny. Joe is

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one of my children I won't say who was telling

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me like two days ago that he already has stresses.

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He's like mom, one time I said something really stupid

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he said about a teacher in front of the teacher.

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He he said it was totally innocent, but his something

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was messed up on his musical instrument or I can't

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remember if it was a computer thing in the class,

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but it wasn't working, and so it seemed as if

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he couldn't do what he was supposed to be doing.

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And he goes, oh my god, Mom, I still think

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about it. I said to her, Oh, thank god you

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give tens to every Tends are like a's. Thank god

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you give a's to everybody, because could you imagine if

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you thought I wasn't like good because this teacher is

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known to give like easy grades.

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Out any well, at least he insults of the teacher

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who gives easy grades out and not the teacher who

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gets everybody hard grades, because that would affect him.

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I go, oh my god, this is so sad because

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he's already starting to feel that like anxious regret of

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he's gonna remember it for the rest of his life,

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just like we talk about like that dinner that I

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was at fifteen years ago, and I still think, like,

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why the fuck did I say that he's only Oh no,

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I'm giving away who he is. But uh, he's so

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young and he already has the regret, and it kind

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of broke my heart a little bit.

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But I remember being in preschool over Vernon Street in

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Northampton and something similar happening, and I must have been four.

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Yeah, no, no, no, it's it's sometimes I remember things

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when I was little, but I don't. I can't tell

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you what age I was, like unless it happened in

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school with a specific teacher that I can recall what

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grade I was in, But other than that, I don't

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know if I was seven or four.

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You know, when I remember certain things, I think I

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do because of external influences, because I'm like, okay, I

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know that I was at that school from three to five.

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Yes, yes, And I think for me, I was in

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the same house, in the same school from basically kindergarten

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through sixth and yeah, yeah, in the same house. So

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for me sometimes it's a little but you're right, You're right.

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You can you can recall, you know, where you were

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or what year you did something to remember, but I'm

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really bad at that.

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I will say that I think that that is why

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when I lived in LA that my memory was so

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bad about connecting times, because I think that growing up

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in New England, I use the weather and I use

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the seasons, like, oh, this happened in the fall, this

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happened you know when there was snow on the ground.

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This happened when we were you know, faked tanning in

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the backyard. As such a connection for memory and in

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La would every day looked exactly the fucking same. I

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think I lost it. I really think I lost this

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like ability to connect time and space because it was

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all just one long summer day for eight years.

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Yeah, I feel like our parents' generation is so much

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better at that. My mom can tell you an exact year, like, oh,

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that was in like nineteen seventy eight, and I I

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can remember, like if there's like a core memory or something,

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I might be able to remember when it was. But

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if I want to look back on when I was

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in middle school, I know I graduated high school in

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two thousand and one, but and I just remember that

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because I remember our slogan was two thousand and one

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was a hell of a lot of fun.

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Yes, we should have edited that because the syllables don't work.

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That bothers me.

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Two thousand and one was a hell of a lot

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of fun. Yeah, oh it rhymes.

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Yes, it doesn't work for me. But Morgan, I'd like

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to say something else about the parents who were like

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that happened in nineteen seventy eight. Morgan, I'm what I'm

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learning about these parents, these boomer parents, is that they

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are really full of shit, and there's nobody to contradict them.

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So my mom's like, well, then this happened, and then

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there's nobody in the room who's like, no, actually that

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was nine years later with a different presidential administration. We're

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all just like, oh, okay, nineteen seventy eight, what do

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you know?

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Yeah, No, that's true. That's true. It's not like I

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check up on it.

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You don't fact check Mary Ellen.

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I don't fact check Mary Ellen. But I feel like

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she's really good at recalling recalling dates. Miss Joe. I'm

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curious because last week we didn't get to this, Morgan.

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We talked about that on Robin's po.

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Miss Morgan, Ryan Walsh, please tell me about the next segment.

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Well, last week we didn't get to hear about any

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of your doppelganger name doppelgainer's Joe Newman's or Okay, sometimes

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they're not Joe Newman's, but a lot of them are.

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And I've given up on mine. I mean, besides the CIA,

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like mind Control, Skate.

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Pard reach, did you reach out to them.

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No, Joe, they probably already know.

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They probably already know you exist.

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They probably already like patted it in my name, and

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they're like, we got to watch this one. So but

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she doesn't remember.

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But she doesn't remember anything, so we're seeing.

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At all.

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I have a cloudy memory.

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Morgan's like, your secrets are safe with me because I

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will not not because I care well, because I will

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not remember.

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So we want to know what's going on with the

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Joe Newman's of the world this week.

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So I have this Google alert on myself which used

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to be this like I don't know when I was acting.

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Excuse me, I just had my coffee. All of us

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actors and I'm sure this is true today, but we

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would do We were doing anything you could do to

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get a job and like get your name out there,

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and I mean anything. I'm talking like writing classes, improv classes,

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Plottis somehow got pushed in there, like every single day

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you just crammed as much as you could possibly do

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into becoming the next whoever it was that you idolized

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and wanted to be for whatever reason. When I was

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growing up, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be the

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next Jewnifer Aniston, But what am I gonna do about

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my curly hair? As if having curly hair was the

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one obstacle between me and, you know, winning an Emmy.

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I was so.

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Fucking stupid, it really was. I was really stupid. But

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that's that's that's another episode of how stupid I've been. Anyway,

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I had a Google or on myself for whatever reason,

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and through the years it's gotten more and more entertaining

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because I'm not acting anymore, so my acting stuff isn't

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coming up. But this is an acting one and this

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is something I've been thinking about a lot lately, which

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is sort of like with AI, how to kind of

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like sift through bullshit.

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Sorry, I was taking a drink of water.

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It's I know, right when I found here. But do

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you know what I mean? Like we like this is

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a news, not a new skill, but this is a

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skill I think that we all need to work on

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now because of AI. Like you need you need to

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know when something's bullshit and when something's real, which is

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fucking it's also going to be impossible to be fair.

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Yeah. No, it's just starting off and sometimes I go

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look and I go wait, I don't know if this

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is it and then you have to look at it

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and say, like this was false, this was false, and

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there's actually pictures nowadays. But anyways, okay, so what happened, Well,

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there's video recordings.

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No, it's not that good, but it's it's a blurb

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about me that is clearly not about me, and I

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think it's really funny. All right, So just the record,

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you guys, I was working my ass off as like

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a very very very like not famous actress. I got

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into a couple of TV shows, a couple of movies,

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a couple of things I thought hit. They were never

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a very big deal. I would sometimes walk into a

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casting director's room and they would know who I was

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because I was in there five hundred times, not because

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they were like, oh, it's the work of Joe Newman.

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So this is an AI generated bio on a website

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called Thehandbook dot com slash Celebrity, and it's supposed to

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help you get in touch with any celebrity that you

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want to. So if it's first of all it's a

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joke that I'm on there, clearly like they used AI

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to just scour IMDb or something, and they must use

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the same AI bio for like everybody who isn't special,

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that's me. Okay ready, yes, excited?

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So this is actually about you. I mean, I understand

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it's it's AI generated and it's not true, but it's

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it's it's really Joanna Newman from Northampton, like it's meant

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to be about you.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, there's a picture of me. There's my Twitter,

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there's my Instagram. All right ready, But I bet you

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that this bio is used for like hundreds of thousands

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of people. But it could make you feel good about yourself.

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All right, here we go. So this is the handbook

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dot com about Joe Newman. Joe Newman is a prominent celebrity.

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That's true. You were my favorite celebrity.

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Thank you for her accomplishments in the entertainment industry.

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Ooh that sounds pornographic.

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I know it does. With her undeniable talent and charm,

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I think a lot of people could deny it. She

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has managed to garner a large following and become a

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household name.

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You're a name in our household, in Morgan Walsh's household.

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Her impress if career spans across various mediums, including film,

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television and music.

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That's not not true. Music, Joe, Yeah, you were in

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a music video, weren't you? Were you ever in a

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music video?

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Yeah? I think I did a few music videos. But

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that's but I didn't make music, Joe.

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It's called artistic license. License. You were part of the

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music industry.

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I was part of the music making Okay, where she

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has established herself as a versatile artist.

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That is also true.

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With her captivating performances and charismatic presence, Joe Newman continues,

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which is not true, continues to captivate audiences, audiences and

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solidify her status as a beloved celebrity.

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Okay, first of all, that is true. You've just changed

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your where your audience is from. Instead of you know,

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doing the girl and trying to be an actor slash

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music industry professional, you are now opening yourself to your

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podcast audience. So again, not true. I totally agree with

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this so far.

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You see you you totally agree with the AI handbook.

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It's just I think it's a good lesson of like

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how easy it is to manipulate the truth, because like, sure,

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a lot of those things are true to the naked eye,

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but if you're a tea I was just reading this

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article about how college professors are now grading papers because

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it's so fucked Yeah.

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and they really should start teaching kids young how to

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they learn how to use it the proper way. For

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my household because like I'll lose my words. It's something

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that we use when we travel. We use it all

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the time. And my kids are now learning a third language,

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like in school, they're learning Spanish, and I always tell them, like, look,

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you can use Google Translate if you're like word finding

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you've got to learn the word.

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them do it for you. So it is an asset,

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like it can help you. It can be a tool,

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but I think it's important that you teach that. Okay,

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that was that was really good. I wonder it's on,

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like is it out there for people to read, because

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can we just take it and use it for our

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pr package about you, because that sounds fucking fantamic.

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I just I wonder, like you know, as a writer,

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fix it for me, and I one hundred percent of

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the time that I've done it, I hate it. So

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I don't have positive reinforcement using chat GPT because I

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don't like because the results suck.

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I think that that would be a good thing for

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us to do, like they do these online courses. You

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know how in university, I think is when I really

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started to learn how to use Google the proper way,

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and it was, you know, if you're looking for something specific,

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use the quotation marks, and if you don't care as

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much about a certain word being in the research you're doing,

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you can just do a plus sign like you want

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this and thing whatever whatever. It is like proper ways

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of using Google Search to like find what you're looking for.

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when you are using AI that you use like a

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correct terminology and like detailed language for it to help

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you out. I think it's like I think it's like something.

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I think it's a skill.

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I think it absolutely is too. I mean to remember

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when we were talking to who are we talking to

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to Lucy on Wine and Crime, and she was saying

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how a friend of hers had used chat GPT to

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an edit of his novel, and I was like, he's

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using it in a way that he's using it in

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a great way. Maybe she was asking it to like

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point out gaps in.

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run it through a few times and each time be

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extremely specific about what they.

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Want about what you're asking for it. Because when I

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ask it to write anything, I think the writing's horrible.

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I'm like, Chat, you're a terrible writer, Like you suck.

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This isn't interesting, it's not nuanced. You're not bringing anything cool.

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You're not grabbing anybody's attention. You know. It's like that

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shirt that you walk by in the front of the

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store and it's like, eh, it's there, and it's not there,

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you know. Like that's how I feeled about the writing.

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And if I'd had positive reinforcements, that's how human brains work.

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If it was good, I'd use it all the time.

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And like that would be terrible, but I hate it.

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Yeah, No, it's so true.

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It's so true.

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It's so true.

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That's like, it's so true is what Morgan says to me.

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And she's like enough. Yeah, you know my husband says

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when he says that, when he's trying to say enough

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to me, he goes interesting, and I'm like, I know

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he's if he's second, he says interesting, not listening to me.

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He's not listening. That's funny. Okay, that was a good one, Joe.

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We're skipping over mine because I started social media stock

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all these Morgans, you know, some play basketball at universities

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in the US. But I feel like it's not really

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fair to like go find them on Facebook and then

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tell you about them because they're not dead or public figures.

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I now, I do feel like it's the public figures

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that are kind of fair.

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Yeah, or like you know somebody that we want to honor,

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or you know, people who share, but they're they're younger.

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You're right, my name's more of a younger generation thing.

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Uh you, But I would like Joe named this last week.

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We do this every week where we kind of talk

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about stories that were submitted or we've stumbled across on

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the Internet that we would usually reach out and use,

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but there's just not enough there. But there's still really

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really funny stories. And I think Joe has come up

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with the title, although I'm going to call it a

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working title because I'm not sure. I'm totally in love

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with it. But my sister's closet, I just don't understand

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the correlation. However, I do have a really funny story.

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I think it's hilarious this week because I think it's

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something that we can all relate to. Is there was

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this woman and she was online talking about she had

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a beautiful necklace on. It was like not a lockett,

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but you know, like a necklace with an AM on

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It had an M like a name an yeah, And

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she was like, I would like to tell you the

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story about my necklace. Did you see this? I would

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have to tell this story about my necklast. Isn't it beautiful?

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Has an em on it? Let me tell you the

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story about I got this necklace. And basically she saw

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the necklace and she loved it, and her dad, her

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parents or her dad or something like, wanted to know

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what she wanted for her birthday. She looks like she's

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in like her thirties or something, and so she sent

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him a picture of the necklace and she's like, I

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really really like this necklace. And so when she opened it,

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she got the necklace and she was like, thanks dad

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so much. But the funny thing is is the necklace

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the picture that she sent had an M on it,

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because it's you know, when you go on like Amazon

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or whatever. She goes, my name doesn't start with an M,

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my dad's name doesn't start with them, my boyfriend's name

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doesn't start with them. But he took it so literally

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that he just ordered this initial necklace with an M

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on it, and she she goes, I wear it every day.

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I wear it every day because it's so funny and

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I love it so much. And I don't know why

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I think that is hilarious.

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I think that I think that a man taking a

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present suggestion one hundred percent literally at face value is

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very funny.

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Well, do you know what's so funny is probably that time.

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This is how I picture it if we, like you

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were to well, if you were to write, this is

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how I picture it is that this dad never like

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always like goes on a whim like doesn't take present suggestions.

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He's just like, I think my daughter's gonna like this

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or whatever it is. And every year he comes up short,

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like every year it's like, thanks sir, whatever it is.

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And so that year he was like, she's doing so

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well in life. I'm so proud of her. I love

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her so much. I want to get her what she wants,

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so like, just tell me, just just tell me exactly

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what you want, and her sending him exactly what she

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wanted and not realizing that he took it literally. I

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don't know. I thought that was really really funny.

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It is, and it just goes to show you how

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different gender's brains work.

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Yeah, totally, because a woman would never do that. Yeah,

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if this is a great thing for you guys listening,

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is we really really love your stories, and even a

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story like that we could use as a bedtime story.

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But if it came from somebody, you guys could provide

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a little bit more background, like what we said, and

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then we could totally turn it into a bedtime story.

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Of course that we say they're based on true stories

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because we come up with a lot of the details

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in the middle. But it's great when there's a little

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bit of background to make the funny full pa or

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whatever it is really you know, help people laugh and

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write a great, great short story. So please send them in.

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We talk about this all the time. We love getting

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your stories, we love seeing your stories. And oh Joe.

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I reached out to Megan yesterday and she said anytime.

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She has started a new series on TikTok Guys, Meghan Chocolos.

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We love her. We're gonna give a shout out to

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her talking about her yah ya, who's her Greek grandmother

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and they grew up in Appalacha. I think is how

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you're properly supposed.

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To say it Apo lachyah, Yeah, a.

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Lacha ya in West Virginia. And she started this series

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talking about her growing up and her yah yah and

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the different things and she does her grandmother's accent and

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it's so funny. So I said, we I think we're

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gonna have to write a story about your yah yah

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and she said anytime. So I have to go back

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and listen. I haven't listened to them all. She does

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like a new one every day and they're very, very funny.

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And I think a new one every day. I gotta

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step it up.

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I think I think I don't. I don't. I've seen

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like at least two or whatever. But I said, that's

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something that's extremely relatable for people who's our first generation

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or yeah she would be, or maybe she's second, maybe

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her parents were born in the US. But anyways, who

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have a foreign grandmother or even parent like my kids

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with me here, you know like things.

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That we do.

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So I think it would be really really funny.

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